Character assassination of Rick Ross as written by NCCG's leader, Christopher C. Warren


Background:

Rick Ross runs a prominent cult education and awareness web site, http://www.rickross.com . Around January, 2006, Rick included a link to this "nccg_concern" web site in a list of similar sites on his web page. There is also a message board on his web site where I occasionally post NCCG-related information.

Christopher C. Warren fantasized that Rick Ross is in some way cooperating directly with me in the creation of this "nccg_concern" web site, and at times insinuated that this site author (nccg_concern) is actually Rick Ross himself.

The conclusions made within the Scientology articles used by Christopher Warren in this character assassination were addressed by Rick Ross in the article
Rick Ross Responds to his Critics. It was easy for this web site author (nccg_concern) to locate this discussion, I just emailed Rick Ross at the email address prominently displayed on http://www.rickross.com and asked him for feedback regarding the Scientology character assassinations.

This character assassination was originally published on the groups.msn.com/nccgcybercommunity web site, in the message board "NCCG Critics", in an article named "Updates on www.geocities.com/nccg_concern: they keep sneaking in". The thread also contains comments made by a very involved group member about the subject.


Character Assassination(s):


From: MSN Nicknamegroup member's name removed Sent: 5/13/2006 6:53 PM

Apparently Rick Ross use to practice involuntary kidnapping of adult cult members. There is an e-mail debate revealing this here: http://www.rickross.com/reference/deprogramming/deprogramming9.html
 
An article of which he apparently approves of (giving its availability on his site) likewise chronicles how some cult deprogrammers kidnapped a couple to get them out of a cult:
 
The question remains is following: If cult deprogrammers are free to kidnap people (Rick Ross only seemed to stop not because he deemed it immoral, but to keep from being sued), why can't we snatch atheists off the street and 'deprogram' them from atheism? What is it about these actions that makes cult deprogrammers 'moral' while making us 'immoral' if we do the same things?
 
Now maybe NCCG_Concern does not do these things, but nonetheless I would love to hear his opinion on the matter. So you know, I joined NCCG of my own free will. Likewise, I am free to leave. Freedom of choice is never restricted in NCCG. However, while involved in this group, people are expected to follow a set code of rules, just like they would in a school or the workplace. Those who don't follow our rules are forcibly removed. Do you then apply this criteria to these social institutions? Bottom line: anything can be a cult if you want it to be. As Ross himself said, Cults can be a four-letter filth word to discredit anything you disagree with.



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Now an honest investigative ministry would insist on properly checking out motives, at best a difficult task and often impossible because the deliberate liars will always seek to actively remain concealed. That is why in Torah accusers were always expected to present themselves physically within a community where they were well known where living witnesses could testify as to their integrity or lack of it. Morever, the accusations should be to the one accused in full opennness.
 
Now none of these safeguards is actually maintained by the Rick Ross group. Everything is shrouded in secrecy, there are no proper accountability structures other than, we suppose, a cabal of those who share the same life philosophy (hence Ross' universal categorisation of all Messianic Jews as 'cultic') which is never identified.
 
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We now jokingly call our barn the "Rickh Ross Interrogation Center". We do noit take these people seriously any more. We know their dishonest methods, their paranoia and the vaccuousness of their belief system. It's plain to see. I challenge them to come clean and allow themselves to be examined in as much microscopic detail as they are attempting (rather badly) to do with us. We see through their pretenses, their false humility and benificence to the world. It is plain that there is a grudge or some kind of an agenda. People are suffering because of them and they are ultimately accountable for aiding and abetting that. Yahweh will not hold them guiltless.


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Exposing The Criminal Clique Called "CAN"
Disclaimer: Citing this article does not imply that we support the beliefs of practices of those who have prepared it. It is cited to show some facts about the so-called "cult deprogrammers" which would suggest that in fact their agenda is hatred of all religion.
 
# Excerpt from FREEDOM Magazine, Volume 24, Issue 1, October 1991.
FREEDOM Magazine is published by the Church of Scientology International
since 1968.

FREEDOM Magazine
6331 Hollywood Blvd., Suite 1200
Los Angeles, CA 90028-6329 #
 

Exposing
The Criminal Clique
Called "CAN"
 

Disclosures of criminality and perversions
rock anti-religious hate group.
 

A series of shocking revelations of criminality and bizarre misconduct have
shattered the sanctimonious facade of the anti-religious hate group, the Cult
Awareness Network, known as CAN.
   The latest disclosure is thatRichard Ross a "deprogrammer" under
investigation in Washington State for unlawful imprisonment pleaded guilty
in 1975 to charges of stealing $100,000 in diamonds and jewelry from a
Phoenix, Arizona, department store.
   The criminal Ross has been singled out for effusive praise by Cynthia
Kisser, executive director of CAN.
   "His name is among the half-dozen best deprogrammers in the country,"
Kisser said, while denyingcharges from national religious leaders that her
group is little more than a clearinghouse for kidnappers who look to profit
handsomely from breaking the religious beliefs of American citizens.
   The revelation of Ross' criminal past placed him in the ranks of others of
criminal or perverse distinction in the Cult Awareness Network, such as the
following:
   * Ted Patrick, a three-time convicted felon and notoriousdeprogrammer,
who is up on new charges in Washington State for unlawful imprisonment;
   * Michael Rokos, who resigned as president of CAN in October 1990 after
his sordid criminal background was exposed. In late 1990, it had been
revealed that Rokos had accepted probation before judgment for attempting to
get an undercover policeman to perform a perverse homosexual act entailing
bondage, humiliation and an unusual form of masochism;
   * Deprogrammer Cliff Daniels, recently featured in CAN's newsletter and
known to be a violent deprogrammer, who was arraigned on kidnapping charges
in Missisippi on May 9;
   * Psychiatrist Louis Jolyon West, a hate-filled enemy of religious freedom,
who has promoted stereotypes and misinformation about African Americans,
Native Americans, and other racial and ethnic groups. West, a long-time
experimenter with mind control drugs, is best known for having killed a bull
elephant with an overdose of LSD;
   * Psychologist Margaret Singer, whose "thought reform" theories, used by
CAN deprogrammers to justify their kidnappings, have been thrown out of court
three times in a row by judges. The judges found that her theories had no
significant backing in the scientific community, upsetting her highly
profitable "hired gun" business of testifying against religions;
   * Deprogrammer Steve Hassan, CAN's current apologist for Singer's
discredited theories, who once kept a victim tied up for three days while he
tried unsuccessfully to force the victim to renounce his religious beliefs.
Another victim of Hassan's was locked in a room for three days under guard and
not allowed to use the restroom alone, and a third victim was gagged and
dragged from her hotel room;
   * Priscilla Coates, head of the Los Angeles CAN chapter, who on a radio
show in July admitted to having had a person held at her house against his
will to be deprogrammed. On the same show, she blurted out that all CAN
members were actually deprogrammers; and:
   * Mary Weeks, Advisory Board member to CAN's Northwest affiliate who
pleaded guilty in 1986 to criminal charges stemming from a kidnapping and
unsuccessful deprogramming attempt.

   * Recent Additions to the
   CAN Rogues' Gallery

   Drawn by the smell of money from deprogrammings, new adherents have been
attracted to CAN who fit in well with its godless mix of fringe professionals
and kidnappers for profit.
    One of these, Hana Whitfield, left South Africa and, according to a
relative, changed her name after her brother stabbed and battered their father
to death. Hana herself had earlier arranged to be in a hotel room alone with
her father and went so far as to raise a gun behind him to kill him, but could
not go through with the murder, her ex husband said. Her brother later did.
   Whitfield admits to taking the deadly psychiatric drug Prozac, known to make
people more violent and suicidal. She charges $1,500 a day for deprogrammings,
plus expenses.
   Her husband, Jerry Whitfield, who failed in an attempt to take over and
seize the assets of a drug rehabilitation group that had gotten him off drugs,
works with Hana.
   Jerry Whitfield, an alleged former drug dealer, is reported by relatives to
be a wife and child beater. He and his wife are the subject of a criminal
complaint which is under investigation by the state of California for
counseling without a license.
   Sharp disputes over territory have broken out in the deprogramming ranks
between the Whitfields, Steve Hassan, and Dennis Erlich, another newcomer to
CAN's ranks, who brings with him a history of petty thefts and family abuse.
   CAN members have shown that they will kidnap and attempt to destroy the
faith of anyone as long as the price is right. The long list of religions
targeted by CAN deprogrammers includes the catholic Church, the Episcopal
Church, the Church of Scientology, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints (Mormons), the Greek Orthodox Church, Seventh-day Adventists, Baptists
and many independent Christian denominations.

* Assaults Against
   Christian Denominations

   Deprogramming is a form of brainwashing which uses kidnapping, forcible
restraint, assault, battery and even rape in an effort to get an individual to
recant his or her chosen beliefs.
   Ross, who has carried out violent assaults, majorly against Christian
denominations, is known to charge up to $20,000 for a single kidnapping and
faith-breaking attempt.
   His victims have routinely been held hostage against their will and
brutally intimidated in attempts to force them to recant their chosen
religious beliefs.

 * Opportunist

   Following his 1975 arrest, Ross admitted that he and his accomplice, who
worked at the store, had planned the heist for three weeks.
   At the time he was taken into custody, Ross was already on probation
following two prior arrests, one for conspiracy to commit burglary in April
1975 and one for attempted robbery in December 1974.
   Prior to being sentenced, Ross was given a psychiatric evaluation which
noted, "The most significant aspect of Rick's past history is that he is an
opportunist. When he gets caught doing something that he should not do or
something that is a little shady, his characteristic response is, 'It's pretty
disgusting the way they make such a big deal about things.'"
   The examining doctor noted that Ross' psychological problems were serious
enough to have led him to make a "quite serious suicide attempt."
   A letter to the judge from Ross' attorney acknowledged Ross' "record of
anti-social, criminal conduct," but asked that the sentencing take into
consideration his "clear background of serious psychological and emotional
problems."
   Despite the seriousness of the crime, the Phoenix robbery proved to be far
from the end of Ross' criminal activities. The man described as "an
opportunist" found another outlet for deprogrammmg .
   Ross has been accused of kid- napping a young Seattle man, Jason Scott, who
was held hostage during a violent "deprogramming" by Ross and several
associates in March 1990.
   Scott told authorities that after he had been abducted, he was held in
handcuffs with his mouth taped shut.
Later, he was kept handcuffed to a bed and held against his will for five days.
During that time, four men, including Ross, continuously harassed and insulted
Scott, denigrating his religious beliefs for 10 to 14 hours a day.
   Scott eventually escaped his captors and  reported the assault to the
authorities. Seattle police found barred windows, handcuffs and varions other
restraints at the condominium where Ross had carried out the attempted faith
breaking.

* Praised by Hate Group

   Despite Ross' past and present criminal activities, members of the Cult
Awareness Network continue to praise him.
   "Rick has cooperated extensively with the national office of this
organization," said Reg Alev, a director of one of CAN's affiliates. "We
recommend him highly."
   The head of CAN's Los Angeles atfiliate lauded him. "Rick has helped me
with all kinds of questions, situations and problems," she said.
   Ross, who has boasted of having participated in more than 100 deprogramming
assaults, is not the first CAN member to have been convicted on criminal
charges.
   In October 1990, then CAN president Michael Rokos resigned his position
amid a storm of publicity that exposed his previously hidden criminal record.
Rokos had served on CAN's national board ol directors for four years and had
been an active member of the Baltimore CAN affiliate before being elected
national president in October 1989.
   Rokos stepped down following news reports describing his 1982 arrest by an
undercover Maryland State Police vice squad officer.
   The press accounts revealed that in July 1982, Rokos had attempted to
induce the undercover policeman to perform a perverse homosexual favor.
When caught, Rokos resisted arrest by attempting to forcibly expel the
arresting officer from his vehicle.

* Convicted Felon

   CAN's first and premier deprogrammer is Ted Patrick, the notorious "father
of deprogramming," who was also instrumental in founding the organization.
   In his 1976 book, Let Our Children Go, Patrick described his brand of
violent assault and faith breaking: "[D]eprogramming is the term, and it may
be said to involve kidnapping at the very least, quite often assault and
battery and almost invariably conspiracy to commit a crime, and illegal
restraint."
   In June 1974, Patrick was sentenced to a year in jail for false
imprisonment (suspended on parole). A year later, he spent 60 days in jail on
the same charge. From 1976 onward, he was further convicted or charged with
kidnapping, conspiracy, abduction and sexual battery. Patrick was later barred
trom entering Canada after an attempted deprogramming assault on a Catholic
nun. Patrick has continued to be an honored guest at CAN conventions.

 * Topless Dancer

   Cynthia Kisser, executive director of CAN since June 1987, has been another
long-time advocate of forcible restraint and assault conducted under the guise
of "deprogramming."
   Despite a glowing description of Kisser' s background in the CAN newsletter
announcing her appointment, it was recently revealed that in 1975, Kisser
reportedly worked as a topless dancer at the Blue Note Lounge in Tucson,
Arizona. She was fired after allegedly harassing the customers. Denied her
previous vocation, she overnight became an expert on religion so she could put
her harassive techniques to use on parishioners.
   Further data on her lack of qualifications came out under cross-examination
in a court case, when Kisser revealed that her actual studies of religion that
would qualify her as an expert consisted of a three-hour course at college in
World Religion.
   Kisser has few qualms about her open support of deprogamming-for-hire.
In 1978, she deprogrammed her own sister, then went on to conduct other
assaults.
   In a July 25, 1988, letter, Kisser noted that at one time CAN's national
board had formed an "ethics committee" for deprogrammers. The committee,
however, was later disbanded "because of potential liability problems that
could arise for CAN" on advice of CAN's lawyer.
   Those liabilities presumably stem from the fact that Kisser and other
 CAN members have continued to support deprogrammers like Richard Ross.
   Attempts to hide connections to criminal activities did not keep CAN and
Cynthia Kisser from being named as defendants in a $72 million suit involving
an illegal videotaping of a woman being harassed and abused concerning her
religious beliefs.

 * CAN is Hiding
   Under a Tax-Exempt Cloak

   Kisser and other CAN members profess no faith of their own they simply
object to other people freely practicing their own beliefs. Their "experts"
are repudiated psychiatrists and psychologists whose hatred for any form of
religion is undisguised.
Kisser has been a vocal mouthpiece for Eli Lilly, manufacturer of the
controversial and destructive psychiatric drug Prozac.
   CAN President Pat Ryan, who has engendered sympathy from the death of her
father, former Congressman Leo Ryan, is a lobbyist for the National
Association of Private Psychiatric Hospitals. Her profession is note-worthy as
deprogrammers have been reported to work hand in glove with psychiatrists to
commit and drug victims who prove recalcitrant in giving up their religious
beliefs.
   According to one report, Rick Ross, during a recent deprogramming in Yuma,
Arizona, boasted that he and others were working to get the ability to use
electric shock therapy in order to handle "resistive cases." Shock therapy is
a controversial and destructive psychiatric depersonalizing technique given
almost exclusively at private psychiatric hospitals. It is noteworthy that the
use of electric shock for the purposes Rick Ross and his CAN supporters
propose, is exactly that used by Russian psychiatric hospitals in Siberia to
cure "resistive cases" of non-communists.
   CAN's flagrant abuses have brought mounting questions regarding how such a
group, whose members want only violate constitutional rights, can enjoy
tax-exempt status. Indeed, CAN won its tax-exempt status at the high point of
violent deprogrammings done in its name, cloaking its activities under the
mantle of "education."
   The IRS initially rejected CAN's tax-exempt status as its presentation of
data was not sufficiently balanced.
Yet, a short time later, while CAN's deprogramming members were in and out of
the headlines for arrests on kidnapping and assault and battery charges, the
IRS gave this hate group status as a tax-exempt organization.
   CAN's involvement with violent and illegal deprogrammings has continued
unabated into the present.

* Working for the IRS

   Its ravored status can be traced to its willingness to target and attempt
to destroy groups the IRS is targcting. Cynthia Kisser boasted on radio that
the IRS has come to her for information on religions that the IRS was
investigating.
   While the full extent ot CAN's stool pigeon status for the IRS is not known,
documentation exists of at least one IRS request for information to help it in
its attacks on targeted religions.
   These abuses have moved several members of Congress to write to the IRS,
questioning why CAN is allowed to enjoy tax-tree dollars to operate as a
clearinghouse for deprogramming.
   In one recent letter, a congressman specifically asked the IRS to respond
to the charges that CAN "is in violation of its tax-exempt status because it
is still practicing deprogramming activities against other religious
organizations" and "the IRS has condoned this activity through . . . its
refusal to deny them tax exemption, though it is clearly improper."
   CAN's tactics are reminiscent ot those of the Nazis during World War II.
Its leaders justify their atrocities and violations of the Constitution with
the same type of propaganda employed by the Nazis.
   So why would the IRS give tax exemption to a hate group that is so
obviously violating the First Amendment to the Constitution? Is this an
indication that Adolf Hitler and his Holocaust hit men would have enjoyed tax
exemption were they around today? IRS officials have no excuse unless they
didn't know. Well, they do now and just as the Holocaust collaborators who
tried to escape responsibility at Nuremberg were hung, so should the IRS be
held accountahle. It is time the IRS stopped playing God. Many before, far
more intelligent than the current batch of IRS religion haters, have tried -
and the result has always been the same.
The IRS should learn from the past and cease being the self-appointed arbiters
of religion which our forefathers recognized as government tyranny.

* CAN Faith-breaking Decried

   CAN has attempted to establish itself as a clearinghouse for other groups
and organizations involved in deprogramming. Tantamount to making itself
little more than a school for international terrorism, CAN has conducted
"joint education programs" for anti-religion groups in Spain, Germany, and the
United Kingdom.
Members of the group have been actively involved in numerous deprogramming
attempts outside the United States.
   Deprogrammers in Europe, such as Martin Faiers, have run into stiff
opposition; Faiers was sent to jail in Switzerland after a violent
deprogramming attempt.

   CAN's deceptive, illegal prac- tices, hate crimes and rabid anti- religious
campaigns have been decried by religious leaders across the country.
   "Forcible deprogramming is the most serious stain on religious liberty
facing this country in the latter half of the 20th century," said the Rev.
Dean M. Kelley, counselor on religious liberty for the National Council of
Churches.
   Dr. Leo Champion, pasitor of the Missionary Baptist Church in Milwaukee,
has described CAN's activities as "illegal and immoral. It's that out law
enforcement agencies put a stop to this."
   One of the most outspoken critics of CAN has been Dr. George Robertson,
executive vice-president of Friends of Freedom, an organization formed in 1987
after clergy of various denominations began expressing a growing concern about
CAN's activities, especially the group's increasing number of assaults against
Christian faiths.
   Describing Richard Ross as CAN's "number one deprogrammer," Robertson added
that Ross "is one of three major deprogrammers in the country who specializes
in attacking members of Christian faiths. That is despicable. No one has the
right to try to forcefully deprogram anyone from his or her chosen faith.''
   Noting that Ross is facing possible charges in connection with the Seattle
abduction of Jason Scott, Robertson said, "We are going to see him put in jail."
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(This file was found elsewhere on the Internet and uploaded to the
Radio Free Michigan site by the archive maintainer.


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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 5/13/2006 8:08 PM
It is becoming more and more clear as we invetigate the criminal activities of these "cult deprogammers" that not only are these people highly violent and unstable with criminal records but they show unmistakable signs of being rabidly anti-religious. We will show later that their criteria of judgment are bogus and that what they are actually doing is using the real cults as a stringboard for victimising and persecuting all Bible-believing Christians. Since they refuse to tell us who they are or what they believe in, we must inevitably draw our own conclusions based on the evidence of their criminal past. Whilst some may just be financial opportunists, others clearly have a communist or satanistic agenda or something akin to it.
 
How foolish we were to even believe that they might be decent but misguided people. The truth will out and we shall see these people for what they are. More information coming anon.

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In his account to the Department of Justice, Ross gives very different examples of advice he gave to the FBI agents.

Ammerman claims that the FBI interview transcripts on the Waco tragedy include the note that "[Ross] has a personal hatred for all religious cults" and would aid law enforcement in an attempt to "destroy a cult". Ross denies this emphatically.

Carol Moore, author of "The Massacre Of The Branch Davidians—A Study Of Government Violations Of Rights, Excessive Force And Cover Up" 1994 published by Gun Owners of America[2], writes:

Ross told the Houston Chronicle that Koresh is "your stock cult leader. They're all the same. Meet one and you've met them all. They're deeply disturbed, have a borderline personality and lack any type of conscience. No one willingly enters into a relationship like this. So you're talking about deception and manipulation (by the leader), people being coached in ever so slight increments, pulled in deeper and deeper without knowing where it's going or seeing the total picture.

Kimberly Post, a sociology student working on a class assignment for Professor Jeffrey K. Hadden, wrote in 1997:

Relying heavily on reports from a few former members of the Branch Davidians, Marc Breault (a former member and angry apostate) and Rick Ross (a deprogrammer and anti-cultist), Aguilera's affidavit delved into topics not under the jurisdiction of the BATF or part of the initial investigation into firearms violations, such as allegations of child abuse. His affidavit and the assumptions put forth by Breault and Ross decisively influenced the investigation and opinion of Koresh and his followers by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Attorney General Janet Reno, and President Clinton. [3]

Ross recounted his role regarding the Waco Davidian standoff in a letter to Attorney General Janet Reno [4] and responded to critics such as Ammerman in a statement published by the Washington Post. [5]

Catherine Wessinger, Professor of the history of religions and women's studies at the Loyola University in New Orleans, characterizes Ross as a "spurious self-styled expert[s]" in her paper The Branch Davidians and the Waco Media, 1993-2003 [6], in which she criticized that Ross was often cited by the local media. Rick Ross describes her paper on his site as follows:

This rather long-winded "scholarly" review regarding media coverage of the Waco Davidian Standoff was written by cult apologist Catherine Wessinger. [...]. Ms. Wessinger snipes about "spurious self-styled experts" [...] getting too much media attention. The professor then stuffs her footnotes with what looks like a Scientologist's historical guide concerning my past. Could it be that she is angry that the press doesn't quote her more? [7]

Criticism

Ross is criticized for his lack of academic credentials, for the two felony crimes in his twenties previously mentioned, and for his former deprogramming activities, the tort of unlawful imprisonment. A great part of the criticism originates from those associated with new religious movements, controversial groups or organizations which are listed in his website, such as the Church of Scientology and the Kabbalah Centre.

Other critics note that he has had conflicts with other anti-cult figures such as Steven Hassan and Anton Hein [8]. He is a frequent poster on Internet newsgroups as well.

Scientology

The Church of Scientology, known for no-holds-barred actions against its critics, maintains a 17-page critique about him supplemented by a 196-page document at "Religious Freedom Watch" consisting of court transcripts, jury verdict forms, news articles, psychiatric records, the bankruptcy filing petition and more [9].

Jeffrey K. Hadden

Professor Jeffrey K. Hadden (deceased) at the University of Virginia wrote that "Rick Ross is a highly visible entrepreneur who has carved out quite a niche for himself as a self-proclaimed expert and counselor to families desperate to retrieve family members from new religions. His past has been called into question by the Church of Scientology which has uncovered evidence of alleged mental instability and an attempted robbery conviction".[10] Hadden himself sought funding from some NRMs including the Unification Church, as revealed by a confidential memo he sent to fellow academics sympathetic to NRMs dated December 20, 1989 [11].

Shupe and Darnell

Anson D. Shupe played a controversial role in the Jason Scott lawsuit. Shupe was an expert witness for the plaintiff in the Jason Scott case. He testified against Ross and the Cult Awareness Network. Later working closely with Scientology lawyer Kendrick Moxon he co-authored a paper with Susan Darnell, [12] who "manages a credit union in Gary, Indiana and is a civil rights advocate journalist." [13]

In a paper written with Darnell he is critical about deprogrammers, defining them "[...] as vigilantes and mercenaries rather than as bonafide counselors or therapists". Specifically about Ross, he asserts that "even coercive deprogrammer Rick Ross was terming himself only an Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist (an unique euphemism for exit counselor) on his late 1990s Internet Website." and that "[...] expert Rick Ross [was] still physically abducting unwilling adults belonging to unconventional religions and criminally restraining the latter according to the old deprogramming/mind control mythos."[14] The comment of Ross on the article is:

Long-time "cult apologist" Anson Shupe [...] broods about "deprogramming" and seems somewhat miffed that despite his professional effort subsidized by Scientology, my cult intervention work continues. He refers to the Jason Scott case, but of course ignores its final outcome. Shupe then supports his opinions largely with footnotes citing other "cult apologists," [...]. Both of these men have picked up substantial checks working for purported "cult" groups. [15]

Shupe and Darnell also assert that Ross engages in anti-Christian writings, referring to a letter to Priscilla Coates, a CAN activist, dated July 30, 1987, in which Ross complained about not getting deprogramming referrals from CAN and that "some parents are so cheap they prefer to let their kids 'bang the bible' than pay."[16] In another letter from Ross to Coates, dated April 28, 1988, Ross describes his strategy to get the media to promote his business as a deprogrammer. He told Coates about his idea to get on television as someone that “had deprogrammed fundamentalist Christians” in order to “stimulate some deprogramming cases in California.”

References

External links

Websites opposed to Rick Ross

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29

 


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From: MSN Nicknamegroup member's name removed Sent: 5/17/2006 7:01 PM
Just one example of Ross's criteria for determining cults and my response:
 
 

Should Passover provide platform for annual Christian missionary programs?

Posted in Jews for Jesus at 8:52 am by Rick Ross

It’s Passover time and that means it’s the season for the annual traveling road show produced by the so-called “Jews for Jesus” (JFJ), an evangelical Christian missionary organization that targets Jews for conversion. The group sends out its faithful in touring buses every year to present “Christ in the Passover,” as reported by the Dakota Voice.

JFJ couple practicing for Passover

JFJ couple practicing for Passover

These programs are typically staged within evangelical and fundamentalist churches where JFJ puts on the program and then profits from contributions.

Passover is a proven fundraiser for JFJ, which has a multi-million-dollar budget and payroll to meet.

But the organized Jewish community has repeatedly expressed concern about such programs, which superimpose fundamentalist Christian beliefs over the historic understanding of the Jewish Passover observance.

JFJ presents its own rather ethnocentric, idiosyncratic version of Passover to evangelical Christian churches across the United States such as Grace Church of Toledo Ohio, Fremont Berean Bible Church in Nebraska and occasionally at mainline Protestant churches like Trinity United Methodist Church of Seymour, Indiana.

JFJ Seder display

JFJ Seder display

Needless to say Christian missionaries parading about, as “Jews” for Passover doesn’t exactly inspire enthusiasm amongst Jews, who most often observe its traditional Seder dinner in the privacy of home.

After all Passover and its Seder symbols have a long-established historic meaning that predates both Jesus and Christianity.

For those that have read Book of Exodus or watched the movie “Ten Commandments” Passover is not about Jesus or Christianity, it is a holiday specifically observed to commemorate the deliverance of Jews from bondage in ancient Egypt more than a millenium before the birth of Jesus.

But for JFJ this sacred Jewish holiday has been reduced essentially to a fund raising hook.

JFJ’s founder is Martin Rosen, a retired Baptist minister, who hit the road again not long ago when his brainchild had some budget problems.

Pastor Martin prefers to be called “Moishe,” which he seems to think makes him seem Jewish.

Jewish surnames also suffuse the list of front line JFJ staff, again giving the group a seemingly “Jewish” patina.

David Brickner

David Brickner

However, Rosen’s successor as the top “Jew” at JFJ, David Brickner, was recently exposed by author David Klinghoffer in the Jewish Journal as a “non-Jew.”

His bio on the JFJ Web site refers to him as “a fifth-generation Jewish believer in Jesus,” which means his family actually has been Christian for some time.  

And Brickner’s mother was not Jewish, which means he isn’t either according to any Orthodox understanding.

By Orthodox definition if a mother isn’t Jewish her baby isn’t either. And Brickner’s maternal grandmother was not Jewish.

Oops.

This means that by no Jewish definition would the JFJ leader even qualify as an apostate Jew, let alone simply as “Jewish.”

Not surprisingly JFJ’s funding comes essentially from sympathetic fellow believers within the Christian fundamentalist community.

But are these the same Christians who frequently say they “love” both Jews and Israel?

If these evangelicals truly “love” Jews why do they continue to so stubbornly support groups that offend Jews by falsely reinterpreting Jewish holidays?

It would seem that this continued support by many Christian fundamentalists demonstrates a disregard and/or insensitivity to the concerns of Jews, which has been repeatedly and publicly expressed?

In fairness it should be noted that some evangelical leaders have spoken out critically against groups like JFJ, such as Billy Graham.

group member's name removed Said:

May 13, 2006 at 6:40 am

What bothers me is the so-called superriority of many Jews when their cultural or ethnic traditions are challenged. So what! Let people think what they want to think. I myself am a Hebrew Roots Christian and identify Yah’shua Messiah (Jesus Chrst) as being a fulfillment of the Passover seder. Does this mean that I should stop believing as I do because such a belief upsets the Jews? I could feel threatened when people tell me I’m not Christian for keeping the Torah, but my philosophy is to move on — why does it matter what people think about what I believe? And why should their beliefs dictate my own?

People forget this wonderful thing called “choice”. While I do believe there is only one truth (how narrow-minded of me!), people have the freedom to regard it or disregard it. And as the previous poster said, it was Messiah who first identified Himself with the Passover meal, not the Christians.

If the Jews don’t want to convert to Christianity, they are free to disagree with the Christian missionaries. But that doesn’t mean it should thus become “illegal” for us to preach our own faith. We are just doing as our Messiah told us — making disciples of all nations. To cease doing what He says would cease to make us Christians just as to cease following Rabbinical Jewish traditions would cease to make someone a Rabbinical Jew. I say, if you are going to believe something, believe it totally or you don’t really believe in it at all. Thus I will proselytise the Jews because I believe it is right for me to do so and they are free to ignore me. Fair enough?



Exerpt from: groups.msn.com/nccgcybercommunity, "NCCG Critics" message board, "NCCG Response to a Swedish Newspaper" thread dated 6/6/2006


9. To begin with, though he denies it, Mr.Concern belongs to an financially opportunistic 'profession', without any kind of credentials, which has been thoroughly discredited in the United States. His agenda, far from being altruistic, is anti-Christian and especially anti-minority religious groups. And whilst many of the groups who are investigated by such 'cult watchers' are truly cults in the broadest definition of the term, many are not, and are merely 'investigated' for financial gain or other agendas. Mr. Concern maintains a discussion board on NCCG at the 'Rick Ross Institute', a man regarded as the foremost 'cult deprogrammer' in the world but who is a well known criminal. He has been found guilty in the United States of embezzlement, fraud, kidnapping, and the violation of human rights, and by his own testimony, remains unrepentant of these misdemeanours. Victims of his kidnappings and 'deprogrammings' have been given awards of millions of US dollars, and one 'deprogramming' organisation was sued for criminal activity and went bankrupt. You should be aware that this is the kind of 'company' that Mr. Concern keeps.