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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator  (Original Message) Sent: 7/23/2006 2:26 AM
Thanks to some research work done by one of our members, Mr. Concern has revealed his true colours. Please note that he uses the nic bluewater2:
 

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Christianity is one of many false belief systems that tries to pass itself off as normal, mainstream and healthy. It is only healthier than being a drug addict, or completely emotionally broken in some other way. And that is the type of person that is the easiest target for this religious system. Unfortunately, once someone is brainwashed into this way of thinking they come to think that they know all they need to know. Learning ends. Intolerance increases. Walls are erected. Just as AA takes people who are broken and turns them into Alcoholic Anonymous addicts, so does Christianity turn followers into religiaholics, unable to function without the system. As science continues to expose the idiocy of the ridiculous beliefs that give Christianity it’s foundation people will begin to understand it is possible to be a loving person who loves life without having to bow down to some idol who has been dead for 2000 years. All of the revealed religions, Christianity primarily, pray on those who cannot think for themselves. Anyone willing to study religious history will eventually develop a healthy perspective and realize that religion and god are man made and that hundreds of millions of people get by just fine with out it and did for 100’s of thousands of years before these systems were created.


Please see the other threads in this link where Mr. Concern (bluewater2) shares his deep wisdom with the world.

That bluewater2 and Mr. Concernm are one and the same is shown here:

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/21415.html?1149366901




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I found this about them. The cult's primary web site is visible at http://www.nccg.org. The public report I made about the cult can be viewed at http://www.geocities.com/nccg_concern .




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From: MSN NicknameZealforYahweh Sent: 7/23/2006 4:26 AM
According to Mr. Concern, "Christ followers" are a cult.
 

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From: MSN NicknameZealforYahweh Sent: 7/23/2006 4:44 AM
Mr. Concern pontificates on the origin of the universe.
 

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From: MSN NicknameZealforYahweh Sent: 7/23/2006 4:45 AM
You know, the more I read these, the more I think this is the work of some kid.

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From: MSN NicknameZealforYahweh Sent: 7/23/2006 4:48 AM
This was also on the last post.
 

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Hey Franklin. Why are you such a mean and angry person? Someone, somewhere stopped loving you, and all the love of your Christ doesn/t seem to be of any help to you. As much as I am tempted to want to use your tactics of insult and degradation, I really want to reach out and let you know that if you ever really need someone to talk to, you know you can email me. You have it.
 
Why doesn't he extend the same invitation to us? If this is concern, I don't know what is.

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From: MSN NicknameZealforYahweh Sent: 7/23/2006 5:13 AM
Also posted to a Pagan board.
 
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Default NCCG - New Covenant Church of God near Arvika, Sweden

Yes, you absolutely stumbled onto one weirdo of a topic that is addressed on that web site.

That link is from the web site of a small polygamy cult. The cult is named "NCCG", or "New Covenant Church of God". They live on an actual compound near Arvika, Sweden, and in my observation, they do not resemble a church. Their web site is much bigger than their actual cult is, you could say.

NCCG's leader, Christopher C. Warren, believes that he receives prophecies and revelations directly from God, and convinces some of the cult members that they do as well. He has a small number of people, mainly women (polygamy, remember?), believing that they have Multiple Personality Disorder and false Satanic Ritual Abuse recovered memories. He also created a paranoia among cult members utilizing an ongoing fantasy scenario involving enemy "satanists" and "covens" endeavoring to attack them both spiritually and physically.

Belief-wise, they don't actually qualify as Christian as far as I can tell, although some of the members think that they do. Their beliefs are a hodgepodge of all kinds of things including things their leader (and possibly others) made up throughout the cult's stormy history.

They claim to use the Bible as a base for their beliefs but it clearly didn't work out in the end! Comparing what NCCG practices to the Bible is like... comparing a phone book to a tree. Sure, at one time that phone book was made from the material contained within a tree BUT... sorry to break it to ya.. it's not like that now.

They have all of this quasi-Christian material on their web site, which makes sense since the target for recruitment looks like mainly Christians (they also get some former mormons (polygamy.... yeah)). They think they are God's specially-chosen end-time church, and the later generations of their "church" will be protected by God while the end-time tribulations and anarchy occurs.

They have a bunch of people who read their website vigorously, but they are not really "INTO" NCCG like they think they are. Only a few of them really live the polygamic NCCG cult life at the compound.

Warren has several wives living there at the compound with him - - not a huge number, but he is working to get more as time goes on.

Full report is at http://www.geocities.com/nccg_concern . Not to spam or anything, but it's there if you want to read it.


--NCCG_Concern

PS: don't get recruited

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From: Dutchservant Sent: 7/23/2006 10:26 AM
"Warren has several wives living there at the compound with him - - not a huge number, but he is working to get more as time goes on." OK... Better leave my wife home when I ever come to visit.. ;)

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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/23/2006 12:14 PM
You know, considering his penchant for talking to himself on the same board using two different nics, his hatred of Messianic Judaism, the fact that he has a Jewish girlfriend, is leading me to suspect that both nccg_concern and bluewater2 are just internet personas of Rick Ross himself. (And before he accuses me of being anti-semitic - which I am sure he'd love to - I have nothing against Jews or any race - just certain of them who are gifted at hating). I can't prove anything yet but I am seeing definite patterns of personality resemblance. His patronising of pagan groups  (as an atheist) leads me to suspect that he is desperate for some support (or is a closet pagan), and of course they are more than willing to mock and disparage Christians of every stripe and bolster his ego a bit. Whatever concern's/bluewater2's/Ross'? belief about "love" - he makes personal claims for that in his anti-Christian diatribe in message #1, says on his nccg_concern site that he has "nothing against Christians", says he is willing to talk and help misguided Christians and won't rave and rant like they do in message #12, etc., etc. - he certainly has a strange way of showing "love" to those whom he feels threatened by. He's never tried to 'lovingly' recruit me to his wonderful world view but that's probably because he thinks I should be electrocuted like the other untermenschen who threaten his utopian dream. Either he's Jewish or trying to curry favour with Jews who loathe Messianic Jews for "stealing" their culture or "Christians" (nazis) for murdering them (note: I have no love for nazis but I certainly believe the Germans have been maligned and victimised). He comes across as very emotionally immature, neurotic and with very twisted motives for doing things. He's proven himself dishonest. And the more he publishes and reveals himself and his true feelings, the more rope he makes to hang himself with, as I have said. Needless to say his great "concern" for people nowhere leads him to try and persuade them of a better lifestyle that is logical and coherent. He has shown himself to be a liar - saying one thing in one place and another else where - he imitates Christian practive by being willing to "give an ear" to someone whom he feels is no threat to his narrow and (if I may say so) bitter worldview (because the Christian in question is probably bitter like himself - I donæt give carte blanche to all Christians as he seems to to atheists and pagans). For all his attempts at composure in his academic writing, he can barely conceal the angry and lost child within who strikes out at the scapegoat enemy (a bit like the nazis swiping at the Jews, only this time its Christians who are the scapegoats) - religion, but especially Christian religion (he dare say wouldn't dare take on fundamentalist Islam), and one (like myself) who incarnates all that he rages against within. Since he will get flattened for attacking the larger groups like the RCC or Mormonism (because of political and financial clout), he bites off only what he thinks he can chew - the small Christian groups. And to give himself legitimacy, he finds a genuine cult here or there, bashes them (though I have yet to see a website like nccg_concern that he has created in which he has actually "exposed" anyone before - my guess is we're the first ... and I don't mean the odd post in a couple of groups), gets the plaudits of those who can see for themselves is a cult, and thereby recruits credibility in his wider war against Christianity. In fact I'd like to see any othjer websites he has crfeated in his valiant crusade against the cults. Or are we the only one? And if so, why? The more I read of him, the more I see in him a crusade of hate, not scientific or humanistic philanthropy.
 
Unlike Concern/bluewater2/Ross? we attack false religion too. I see no attacks by him on the record of "false atheism" (assuming he believes in such a thing) such as communism, fascism, etc. (unless he is one, of course - they're pretty much alike). Ironically, the one "church" who has bloodied his/Ross'? nose - the Scientologists - are about as close to his 'non-religious' system as he could dream of. His belief system, as revealed online for people to scrutinise, is pretty vague. He seems to understand that a moving target is hard to hit so he says contradictory things about the same thing, exploiting confusion to his advantage like a good Illuminati propagandist (I wager this sentence will appear on his site  as an example of my "paranoia" lol). About the only thing he dares wager on is evolution which is pretty easy to dismantle (speaking as a scientist here who has apparently "ceased learning" [message #1] as a Christian according to him ... I wonder what he is? What he's qualified in? I don't suppose he'll ever tell us and will always offer his usual pathetic excuse for his secrecy - namely fear of my Maffia hit-squad  ... whence the paranoia one wonders?). For "free thinking" materials on evolution, see our Science page at www.nccg.org/Science-HP.html. Let's see if His basis for rationality is "scientific" - I challenge him to answer my article at www.nccg.org/188Art-ScienceFaith.html which shows that he is as religious as the next man, only that his religion is atheism. ACtually I think he's far more religious than I am because I believe my faith has more of a rational foundation than his - much more.
 
And I wonder how many of the Christians who approvingly quote him or respond to him know just what Concern believes about junkie Christians? ... because he courts them with one hand and rubbishes them with the other which, if I am not mistaken, is what antichrist does, doesn't he? (10:1 he'll quote this and claim I think he's the antichrist ).
 
Let's see some more of your writings, Concern/bluewater/Ross? The more you write the more you tell us about yoruself which you are so desperate to keep hidden, even though you're willing to hypocritically trash people in public from the comfort zone of your own black hole. And I reiterate, you will be exposed because this Christian doesn't stand idly by and give authority to quacks like you. And what I cannot do, One who is greater than both of us definitely will.
 

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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/23/2006 1:14 PM
More information on the 'Great Concern':
 


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I hate different races, arron. Thats why my children are 50% Navajo Native American and my girlfriend is 100% Jewish. You are 100% kookie. But so entertaining.
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The kids are 50% Navajo, 50% white. Of course my girlfriend does not think that Jesus was the messiah. No REAL Jews do. They don't even keep or acknowlege your new testament. Real Jews think that the NT is a joke. Why wouldn't they? They wrote the Torah and don't accept Jesus because he did not fullfill the prophecies in the Book Of Prophets. Christianity is another "new" religion, like Mormonism. If I needed any god based religion, like you do, I would be Jewish. A much better religion.
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Bluewater2

Which half of your kids is Navajo, the top half or the bottom half?


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Arron, I do not lie. Never accuse me of that. And I can show you 135 prophecies unfulfilled. If I show you those will you recant your statement above that every prophecy was fulfilled? If you ever accuse me of lying again, arron, I will find you and make you eat your words. Thank you.



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Arron, I have always been respectful with you but you called me a liar. Since you are unable to defend your position in a rational and intelligent way you resort to name calling, calling me a liar, calling me a child. You sounded like a man when you sent your little message out saying you were taking some time off to reflect because of the bitterness here. Now you have come back more bitter than ever. You are so transparent that it is laughable. Good luck in your walk with the lord. He is way over there though, arron, so your walk is obviously fruitless.

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I think that arron is completely oblivious to the notion that anyone could possibly think that Jesus is not the savior. As far as I am concerned, Xtianity hijacked the parts of the Torah, Nevi'im and Kethuvim that conveniently justify their own twisted system. Thats just me, of course.

http://www.factnet.org/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=3&page=13249


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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/23/2006 1:19 PM
nccg_concern/bluewater2:
 
"I hate different races, arron. Thats why my children are 50% Navajo Native American and my girlfriend is 100% Jewish."
 
 Anyone care to psychoanalyse that one?

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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/23/2006 1:35 PM
I take it this means that nccg_concern/bluewater2 is Navajoo Indian, his girlfriend is Jewish, and his children are half Navajoo Indian and half Jewish. Not that it matters. What interests me the most is a mind that would declare:
 
"I hate different races"
 
Does that mean in nccg_concern's/bluewaters's/Rich Ross'(?) atheistic utopian world, all the races would be compelled to intermarry to eliminate all racial differences? (A bit like the time when the Swedes forced over 60,000 people to be sterilized because they didn't meet certain racial criteria [I'll not mention Mr.Hitler's Lebensborn as that might offend his 'other' sensibilities]) Even if he did this, how would he maintain homogenity of colour and features? Won't there still be different mixtures, leading effectively to new races?
 
Am I picking up signals here that nccg_concern/bluewater2 has some sort of racial inferiority complex? Has he been traumatised in youth by unkind jibes by other races? Is he working out a deep anger against God because of abuse when he was younger? Does this explain his obsessive-compulsive need to attack Christians, and why he has turned to at elast one segment of of people who hate Christians to create a new species?
 
Now this may be totally nonsense but in this little illustration I am doing no more than he does in speculating, assuming and fantasising about us here at MLT/NCCG. Does he indeed like his own medicine? Would he like me to create a bluewater2_concern site analysing his every move and statement on line. Woiuld he like me to send private detectives to his home in California and dig up evferything on his past? Perhaps he'd like me to dig up some of the bullies who abused him when he was a child (I'm only speculating, you know) and get their unbiased testimonies? Maybe he even has a criminal record. Maybe he used to be a drunk. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe he's a martian - let's look for unusual birthmarks and get a doctor's testimony. At least that's his methodology. Maybe he's been in prison. I'm sure a good journalist like Mr. Sjöholm could write a juicy story given the right incentives.
 
And does atheism really cure his inner hurts? Ironically, the one he seems to hate the most (like many of the things we fear the most) is probably the only one who can help him.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/23/2006 2:02 PM
"As far as I am concerned, Xtianity hijacked the parts of the Torah, Nevi'im and Kethuvim that conveniently justify their own twisted system. Thats just me, of course."
 
Xtianity - if you do a search on the word, is a term of abuse used against Christians principally by atheists, pagans and satanists. You will find that most other religions are more respectful (though Muslims with long memories may call them 'Crusaders').
 
Since we're using an abbreviation of Christianity (Xtianity) which is generally regarded as a term of abuse, this tells us a great deal about Mr. Concern's neutrality and lack of bias and explains why he said in his politically correct (?) nccg_concern website that he has "nothing against Christians" - wonder why he didn't say he has "nothing against Xtians" - doesn't have quite the right politically correct ring, does it? As one online dictionary of slang defines:
 
xtian




A word that atheists use because for some reason they think it's supposed to insult Christians.

 
 
We recall all of bluewater2's rants against Christians, such as:
 
"you resort to name calling, calling me a liar, calling me a child"
 
Since calling someone an 'xtian' or belonging to 'xtianity' is generally recognised as being a term of insult by atheists, what does that make Mr. Concern? You've got it, a hypocrite. Of course he'll doubtless dig up some alternative minority definitions of 'xtian' (like an ex-Christian) and try to wriggle his way out that way, but what the heck, we're trying to defame him, aren't we? (that was an ironic remark btw, not a statement of our intent ... just to show him how he operates against us. I know how he loves to quote out of context and mistakes comedy for serious discussion ... but then it seems he has no sense of humour).
 
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The Liqorice Kid
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/23/2006 2:24 PM
Ahhhhhhh - silly me! I just twigged!!!
 
"I hate different races" means that he hates ALL races except Navajo's and Jews!!!
 
Why didn't I see it before?

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From: MSN Nicknameteh_bondservant Sent: 7/23/2006 2:54 PM
Fascinating reading material
I think I'll go take an advil, my head hurts
 
If indeed these are all the same person, how miserable can that life be?

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From: Dutchservant Sent: 7/24/2006 3:36 PM
I'd like to mention that in reading the pagan message board, I found it striking to see two things: 1) The total naivity with regard to evil as something that in facts destroys your life; 2) the comradeship and friendliness there is between the members of the group.
2) is something that has struck me often before. In the darkest places and among people caught up in darkness, there can often be found comradeship, fellowship and love. This is the case in pubs, alternative youth centra etc. It is especially striking in darker environments like the Black Metal, Doom, Death Metal etc. scene: 'headbangers' often are very friendly people that highly value friendship and fellowship and being a true comrade. This contrasts sharply with the music they listen to which is full of lyrics that are centred around hate, murder, death etc. It seems that since satan knows what people are really looking for (fellowship and love and especially affirmation of their identity), he mixes his dark stuff with this good stuff - because love and fellowship are originally good and originally come from Yahweh, don't they? I think that love and fellowship greatly empower the delusion of the dark places satan helps people create for each other. I once spoke to a girl who had left the church and was now a volunteer in an alternative youth center. She said she didn't miss the church one bit and that the youth centre was like a family. Isn't that very mean of the evil one? Combining what Yahweh intends and what people long for -family life - with darkness?
Concerning 1), I used to think that I could rationally convince people of the dangers of darkness, of new age and occultism etc. But my experience and also what I've read on the forum show that these people cannot be reached by words alone. Their hearts really have to be broken open by the Ruach (and perhapse by severe misery and spiritual catastrophe). Until that happens, they really think that evil is a game and that they are in control.

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From: Jannicke Sent: 7/24/2006 8:41 PM
I think you are hitting a nail on the head here Dutchservant,
In fact what made Germany so loyal to Hitler before and during WW2 was the comradeship, feeling of belonging and acceptance in groups like Hitler Jugend and as a nation. Hitler exploited that need which people have to be accepted and cared about and allowed the people to look up to him as a father. He even declared that he was Germany and that Germany was him.
Now the need to have a father and to belong is a genuine one. The problem with Hitler was that he didn't ultimately care a fig. Same as the school system. Many pupils try hard to please, and belong to their classes, but ultimately the teachers have a life of their own and so do the other pupils. It is promising what it does not give.
Yahweh made families where people actually DO care. Tribes where people do belong and He Himself is not abandoning those who put their trust in Him. Promising things is one thing, being reliable a totally other.
Teachers do their jobs and then depart, and Hitler, when he failed to reach his own selfish ends, demanded that all of Germany's resources be destroyed in a joint suicide to not allow the enemies to get anything. (This command was not obeyed). And then killed himself.. trusting in his own father (satan) who abandons him in the same way.
Satan is an expert at abusing people's needs and giving them counterfeits, and he always did defame Yahweh - saying He is tricking us - in order to convince us.

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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/27/2006 9:18 PM

FYI Received from "harold" <harold@hogiebear.com> today as an email (I have no idea how he comes to have my private email address):


Chris Warren.  I ran accross some things that I found quite interesting that you and your fellow cultists have been saying about me.  After reading all of the posts on your bogus little discussion board, which I enjoy looking at from time to time since you so graciously approved of my application, you appear not only ignorant but paranoid as well.  I am BLUEWATER2, and that is me.  I am not Ricky Ross, or anyone else, and I post only with one nic.  You must have much to be paranoid about if you have drawn the conclusions that you have.  You said, "(And before he accuses me of being anti-semitic - which I am sure he'd love to - I have nothing against Jews or any race - just certain of them who are gifted at hating)."  One need only to visit your site once to get a wind of the intolerance that is spewed from that site, along with your blatant pandering for dollars needed to repair the damage to your facility that your god brought upon you and your followers.  If you have read enough of my posts, you know that I believe that the idea of god and all of the religions that claim to be the "correct" interpretation of god, spring from the mind of man in an attempt to explain the unexplainable to the ignorant.  It is obvious to me that your need to attack me and my lovely little family on your bogus little discussion blog indicates a supreme cowardice.  And your need to quote my words out of context in an effort to paint me as some kind of racist to fit your agenda reminds me of the way that the christians warped the words of the Jewish Tanakh to fit their incidious needs to bolster their claims of a messiah in Jesus, which anyone with a sense of reason knows is a crock.  Jesus was a much better person as a man than the Xtians have made him out to be as their "messiah."  Religion is a pox on the planet and you and your little web site are perfect examples of that.  You might want to read one of my topics on FactNet titled, "Abandon Religion and Get Closer to God."  <o:p></o:p>

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Where you quoted me as saying, "I hate different races, arron. Thats why my children are 50% Navajo Native American and my girlfriend is 100% Jewish. You are 100% kookie. But so entertaining.", you forgot to put the post before that by arron that accused me of being racist.  Had you included that one, my above quote would have been seen for what it was, sarcastic.  Your selective use of my quote let to a long list of your brain dead followers attacking me for being a racist.  I have a feeling that you do alot of selective dissemination of information to your followers to bolster your belief system.<o:p></o:p>

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One thing that you cult leaders never seem to get through you heads is, I have nothing against christians, I generally feel sorry for them.  But Christianity is one of the more twisted religions out there, especially as practiced by your type of cult leader.<o:p></o:p>


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From: MSN NicknameCommunity_Moderator Sent: 7/27/2006 9:29 PM
If nccg_concern and bluewater2 are indeed two separate persons, then I apologise for confusing the two identities. However, bluewater2 should have been more careful when he posted nccg_concern in the first person. And given how nit-picky these fellow atheists, agnostics, or whatever they are, are (nccg_conceren seems to have dedicated his life to picking through every single statement I have ever made as though I were some sort of infallible super-human), they must expect to picked apart and misunderstood in the same way. They are so consumed in their rage against Christians that they follow a double-standard, missing the winks and hints at humour and seeing in them some terrible conspiracy to defame them. However, I did not come seeking for them - they came seeking for me.
 
As for bluewater2 having "nothing against Christians" (odd, I seem to remember nccg_concern using exactly the same words on his website ... birds of a feather, no doubt), I let his post in Message #1 speak for itself, along with the defences offered by the cult of atheism.
 
As for his family, I wish them all well, as I do all families, and may his children prosper in truth.
 
 

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